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General Discussion / Re: After acquisition of Freescale we need a boost to hurry!...
« Last post by Carlos on November 16, 2016, 02:24:17 PM »
In 2016 NXP also announced low-power versions of the T4:

T4240 -> 24 threads, 1,8GHz: 45W (3,75W per core)

NXP also announced a guideline DDR3 to DDR4 transition:
Suggestions / Re: Future Power CPU's and ideas
« Last post by Carlos on November 07, 2016, 01:05:12 PM »
Why not. Visions are good. We will see what the future brings. But I'm pretty sure, you have to pay IBM a lot of money in doing this. And you can't compare with Intel, because they have a bigger market.

But I'm also pretty sure, if someone gives IBM enough money, the can build a chip that beats any Intel offerings.
Suggestions / Re: Future Power CPU's and ideas
« Last post by Casper on November 06, 2016, 07:07:57 PM »
AMCC has seemingly ceased all development of Power based chips before Freescale. But since Freescale needed to design their cores from their own R&D, I can imagine Qualcomm passing these in favor of pre-made ARM cores.

I wonder if we grouped together with some companies and asked IBM to design a cut down POWER9 core how much that would cost (since the cores themselves already have been designed). Maybe if a large enough group of smaller companies buy a smaller design chip. If Intel can make more than 10 variants of every Intel Core design, then surely we should be able to get one more design out of POWER?

Maybe I'm a bit too optimistic.
Suggestions / Re: Future Power CPU's and ideas
« Last post by Carlos on November 06, 2016, 02:39:07 PM »
That's what I mean with "POWER derivative". The G5 (PPC970--) was a derivative of POWER4.
Yes, if Qualcomm leaves the PowerPC, only a few companies are left. IBM and AMCC, AFAIK. It seems that even AMCC is switching from PowerPC to ARM.

Even if IBM sees no one in doing a derivate of POWER chips, it's not looking good:
The number of "vendors who have the skills to be able to take a sophisticated processor and do derivatives of it for the server market is actually perhaps a smaller universe than we thought," Balog said

And IBM is only talking about the server market.

The only road that makes sense in a commercial way is to build a ultra low-power PowerPC SoC that fits in embedded and mobile devices, from phone to notebook. Then there is a bigger market maybe. But it would be really though to fight against ARM and Intel at once.
Suggestions / Re: Future Power CPU's and ideas
« Last post by Casper on November 06, 2016, 02:09:15 PM »
I don't really see it as a POWER derivative chip, but rather a severely cut down version of their server chips (because that's what I think is hurting the TALOS Secure Workstation, it's prohibitively expensive). but I can imagine even making a cut down version would cost quite a bit of money.

However if NXP --> Qualcomm stops making Power based QorIQ chips, companies who are dependant on the Power chips like A-EON, ACube and such might pool together for such a project. i can even see Raptor Engineering opt for a more low-end Power chip to reduce costs.
Suggestions / Re: Future Power CPU's and ideas
« Last post by Carlos on November 05, 2016, 06:05:56 PM »
Hmm, difficult. I think, after Apple jumped ship in 2006 no commercial company sees a market in new desktop/ mobile PowerPC chips. To build a POWER derivate chip, you need a lot of experience. Even IBM sees no one able to do such a development.

It's also a question of ROI (return on investment). You need a lot of money and a long breathing. As long as we don't have a lender of capital (such as e. g. BlackRock ;)) we can put that idea right out of our mind :'(

BUT, I love your idea anyway, no question about that :)
Would be cool to see IBM doing this, pulling a hat (chip) overnight with twice the performance and half power consumption in comparison of Intels best offerings, like in 1997 ;D
Suggestions / Future Power CPU's and ideas
« Last post by Casper on November 05, 2016, 02:01:03 AM »
NXP's QorIQ Power line has a bit of an uncertain future, so I was pondering what else could be a future candidate for a future project.

I was thinking, since the Power8 and Power9 cores are open for modification, could a potential dual core SMT4 (2 cores, 8 threads) or a quad core SMT4 (4 cores, 16 threads) be a viable option for a laptop? (I think a quad core design might guzzle up too much power). If a dual core full Power9 CPU could be utilized (maybe at a lower clockspeed as well), what would it enable us to do? Who would design it and who would build it?

General Discussion / Re: Potential Qualcomm takeover of NXP
« Last post by Carlos on October 27, 2016, 04:40:37 PM »
My hope is, that IBM to buy Qualcomm ;)
General Discussion / Re: Potential Qualcomm takeover of NXP
« Last post by mpasteven on October 27, 2016, 04:23:34 PM »
Qualcomm was approved to buy NXP now.
General Discussion / Re: After acquisition of Freescale we need a boost to hurry!...
« Last post by Carlos on October 27, 2016, 04:22:48 PM »
October 27, 2016

Dear Friends, Partners and Customers,


On October 27, 2016, we announced that NXP has agreed to be acquired by Qualcomm. This will create the industry powerhouse to focus on Secure Connections for a Smarter World.

The combining of NXP into Qualcomm is based on compelling strategic logic that brings together two highly successful and complementary businesses to create a premier semiconductor industry leader. With unique leadership positions in Wireless technologies, Security and Processing, the union is ideally positioned to address the emerging trends of ADAS and Autonomous Vehicles, the Internet of Things (IoT) and the 5G revolution.

The combined company is expected to have annual revenues of more than $30 billion, serviceable addressable markets of $138 billion in 2020 and leadership positions across mobile, automotive, IOT, security and networking segments. The transaction has substantial strategic and financial benefits:

Complementary technology leadership in strategically important areas: The transaction combines Qualcomm’s leadership in low-power advanced computing, connectivity and communications systems with NXP’s complementary leadership in general purpose and automotive grade processing, security, automotive safety sensors and RF; enabling more complete system solutions.
Mobile: A leader in mobile SoCs, 3G/4G/5G modems and security.
Automotive: A leader in global automotive semiconductors, including ADAS, infotainment, safety systems, body & networking, powertrain & chassis and secure access.
IoT and Security A leader in broad-based MCUs, secure identification, mobile transactions, payment cards and transit; strength in application processors and connectivity systems.
Networking: A leader in network processors for wired and wireless communications and RF sub-segments, Wave-2 11ac/11ad, RF power and BTS systems.
Enhanced go-to-market capabilities to serve our customers: The combination of Qualcomm and NXP’s deep customer and ecosystem relationships and distribution channels enables the ability to deliver leading products and platforms at scale in mobile, automotive, IoT, industrial, security and networking.
Shared track record of innovation and commitment to operational discipline: Both companies have demonstrated a strong commitment to technology leadership and best-in-class product portfolios with focused investments in R&D. Qualcomm and NXP have both taken action to position themselves for profitable growth, while maintaining financial and operational discipline.
Qualcomm is an exceptional company with a like-minded approach to that of NXP, in terms of customer-focused innovation. Its exceptional heritage, engineering execution capability and richness of technology are an ideal match to NXP’s long-standing commitment to the Automotive, Security, Networking, Consumer and Industrial markets. We and the entire NXP team are delighted at this prospect and wish to assure you of our continued commitment to you throughout the entire transition phase and beyond.

Of course, the transaction is subject to regulatory approvals and other closing conditions, so we anticipate that the acquisition will likely close during the end of calendar 2017. However, for now and until the close of the deal, it will be business as usual, and all NXP employees will remain focused on total customer satisfaction with a passion to win.

On behalf of the entire organization, we thank you for your continued support, as we together continue to complete the integration of the Freescale and NXP systems. We are truly excited about our potential as a combined company with Qualcomm and the increased ability to deliver to you unsurpassed customer service and innovative products. We are confident that our combination with Qualcomm will be as seamless as possible and look forward to working with you for many years to come.

We will keep you informed as additional information becomes available that we are legally permitted to share.

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