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Hardware => Notebook chassis => Topic started by: feeef on December 22, 2014, 07:02:18 PM

Title: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: feeef on December 22, 2014, 07:02:18 PM
Hello all,

What about finding somebody who could 3D print the cases? I have not much knowledge about this technology so I don't know if it is doable but I just came through the idea.

We could have the design we want if we printed it ourselves.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: nemesis on December 22, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
From what I understand from reading on Robertos blog it will not be impossible to change the chassi of the notebook and why not have a own 3D printed chassi or even a hand made in wood?
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: feeef on December 22, 2014, 08:45:17 PM
The Novena laptop has a hand-made wood case and I love it!

I think that having a special case or different cases for different tastes or needs can make the laptop very sexy for the users. I think it is time to break the idea of free/open = powerful but ugly and only made for hackers.

Anyway, I will try to think of some case concept and try to draw them when I find the time.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: jjSuper1 on December 28, 2014, 04:25:15 PM
I think the 3D printed idea is wonderful.
Would need:  Someone solid with CAD program, someone with access to 3D printer (find local Hackerspace?).

The CAD design is the tough part, but I could see it designed in two parts, like all laptop cases.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: feeef on December 28, 2014, 09:12:26 PM
This printer looks like it is big enough to print a 15" laptop case and costs about $2000
http://gcreate.com/gmax-printer-1-5/ (http://gcreate.com/gmax-printer-1-5/)

I don't know much in 3D printers but I do some researches so I post. :)
Would be good to have the point of view of a specialist.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: nemesis on December 31, 2014, 12:59:48 AM
As I am not so well read up on 3D printing and the only things Ive ever seen are in the local electronics shop for display, those 3D printed items look a little fragile. Would a 3D printed Chassis be sturdy?
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: jjSuper1 on January 01, 2015, 12:51:04 AM
3d printed prosthetic limbs have been printed, as well as firearms and race cars... I think it will be fine if suitable materials are used.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: sradonich on January 05, 2015, 04:17:58 PM
Hey guys, my name is Steve. Found this website last night and absolutely love the idea of a PPC based laptop as my PowerBook G4 is starting to go out. I have quite a lot of experience with CAD programs and would love to take a whack at it if someone can come up with a design with measurements. At the same time I sit on the Board of Directors for a local maker/hackerspace and we have a 3D printer, I don't use it often but could definitely do some prototyping. There are a few problems I see with this idea however, one being that just printing out some relatively small parts takes several hours so this could take quite a bit to get part of the case and that is assuming one only has to print it once for testing. Second being that while they are cool, in my experience they don't hold up to well if they're being handled rough, I'm sure that could be overcome with a higher quality plastic and better printer.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: robyinno on February 13, 2015, 02:14:27 AM
If you like to ask how much could cost for case to some professional center with "big" 3D Printers , could be useful.

I'm waiting a quote from http://www.solido3d.it/ (http://www.solido3d.it/) , anyway they could print inside a cilinder of 400mm of diameter , that is enough for a 14inch notebook (31,4 cm x 24,5 cm) not for a 15 inch.

There are other solutions like: Vacuum casting ( smooth looking but expensive - around 450 euro only for the notebook case) or thermo forming  (cheaper than Vacoum, less smooth looking , more complex assembling).

Anyway I will update you about the quote for 3D print , if you like search around you for have other quotations.

Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: robyinno on February 13, 2015, 02:24:18 AM
3D printers need to have 3D projects and experts that design the notebook chassis, I have found a good 3d model search engine https://www.yobi3d.com/#!/  (https://www.yobi3d.com/#!/). You could search 3D models for notebook chassis https://www.yobi3d.com/#!/search?q=notebook (https://www.yobi3d.com/#!/search?q=notebook)
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: feeef on February 13, 2015, 05:42:10 PM
Thanks for the link Roberto!

I think the key for visual success in computers is "sober". Straight sharp lines with sober colours (maximum 2).

Personally, I quite like this 3D model : http://archive3d.net/?a=download&id=a83b6cb5 (http://archive3d.net/?a=download&id=a83b6cb5)
It has been made out of a powerbook but it is what looks good to me. The chromebook pixel is also very close to this design.

If it is made of plastic I would suggest white or black. I quite like the retro colours as well (beige close to grey / dark keyboard) :
http://www.englyst.eu/wp-content/gallery/new-commodore-64/Commodore64_LW11_00004.jpg (http://www.englyst.eu/wp-content/gallery/new-commodore-64/Commodore64_LW11_00004.jpg)
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: feeef on February 13, 2015, 07:10:52 PM
I have made some colour tests based on my previous post

(The beige colour could work very well with the popcorn name and logo if it's the one we chose)

(http://s2.postimg.org/9nci9ef9l/colours.png)
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: thebatmankiller on February 24, 2015, 12:50:28 AM
Nice  ;D! I like the design of the PowerBook G4. I just want it to not be like a MacBook Pro. Those things suck with design. In my opinion, the black is the best design, but it's just my opinion  :P.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: argoste on November 07, 2015, 05:14:17 PM
As a possible source for inspiration/information about chassis construction, I suggest
https://www.youtube.com/user/thebenheckshow
This guy makes custom laptop and gaming consoles.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: Stemby on March 15, 2016, 05:38:10 PM
http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/news/

Ugly, but I find the project quite interesting.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: pseudomind on April 01, 2016, 10:21:10 AM
So I'm going to go ahead and suggest that this this option is probably the best choice for the first version of this laptop.

While I agree that notebook chassis made of aluminum or wood is certainly more attractive than something made of plastic, with the current ubiquity of 3D printers I think that this method of chassis fabrication will be by far the most inexpensive. I am sure that some people may find my opinion to be unfavorable however, keep in mind that for this first design iteration it is important that we set achievable goals. As user Stemby pointed out, there are already other projects out there which have been working on designs for a 3D printable laptop. From a bit of searching, you can find the site on which lkcl has posted the 3D schematics for his open hardware laptop:

https://www.youmagine.com/designs/libre-hardware-licensed-parametric-laptop-design

It is likely that for the PPC laptop design, we could probably utilize most of the design as is, and only require changes to expand the height of the laptop base (for accommodating a larger PPC logic board and heatsink combination), and some changes to external side port plates (to reflect which ports and charging interface we select). In fact, this guy has even gone through a lot of pain to select all of the individual parts of the system (screen, touchpad, keyboard, etc) ... If we honestly wanted to try and produce a new Linux PPC notebook computer as soon as possible, we would be best off reusing as much work freely done by other people as possible.

http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/laptop_15in/

Anyhow, by choosing to go with a 3D printed chassis as opposed to one of the other alternatives, I am thinking that we will greatly increase the probability of actually bringing the laptop into production. Keep in mind that the goal of this project is probably not only to produce a single model of laptop ever... more than likely it is to develop the capacity to produce and improve upon laptop designs for the foreseeable future. Therefore the best course of action is to first get the project beyond vaporware status, and then we can refine and improve the designs to best accommodate what people think is the best.
Title: Re: What about 3D printed chassis
Post by: robyinno on April 06, 2016, 10:02:13 AM
I think the "parametric design project" is a very interesting project and we are already in contact with Luke Leighton that like our project.
In the near future I believe that we will collaborate together.
Now we are in the stage of making an agreement with a notebook producer to provide us its notebook chassis,battery,lcd,etc...
Even Tesla Motor for the its first electric car have used a Lotus "Chassis" :D

Even if we are not a Company, we are a R&D volunteer association :"we define ourselves as a Solidarity/Ethical/Passion driven community. We promote a Positive and Humane relationship between collaborators, and advocate giving people a choice to run GNU/Linux on different hardware platforms."