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Gnu/Linux Distros / Re: OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
« on: June 26, 2017, 03:33:43 PM »
Was taking a look at various distros and it looks like OpenSUSE Tubleweed (which is a rolling release) is available for both PPC64 and PPC64le.

Tested on x64 and x1000.

On PA Semi 4GB RadeonHD 6870 it was usable but unstable.

I believe recent updates are LE only, no Altivec (IBM POWER made for), just like with Debian and many other distros.

Once laptop goes live I advise sending boards to Linux teams so maybe PPC64BE+Altivec will be supported again.

On 2xi3 2Ghz 4GB IntelHD 4000 it is stable and usable, it shows PPC distros
need just a bit more stable kernels and tested builds.

+ Constant Update (Rolling Release)
+ Comes with MATE
+ Built on OpenSUSE
- Not the fastest distro

Leap also exists for PPC, but was unable to make it work with kinky x1000 kernel
trickery.
https://www.opensuse.org/#Leap
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap

Leap is also openSUSE based, but stable and very complete.

It is "new OpenSUSE", but PPC64LE only

http://software.opensuse.org/distributions/leap/ports

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Others OS / Re: openSUSE
« on: April 27, 2017, 11:24:05 PM »
openSUSE Leap 42.2 Linux Now Officially Available for PowerPC64le Architectures

Both Leap and Tumbleweed exist in PPC64 Big Endian versions quite a while.

Its only IBM Power 8 support that has come recently.

And these are amongst most updated PPC distros.

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Others OS / Re: MorphOS
« on: April 27, 2017, 11:22:36 PM »
I think morphOS is jumping ship to x86 sooner or later ...

Its gone official! Only we dont know when, and will PPC be abandoned with it or parallel structure supported, but yes, MorphOS 4 should be x64 native.

However, at this 3.8 point of time, it is mature, fast and great operating system and there is no reason why shouldnt be used here.

MacPPC Pro books shall die (of envy) :-)

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Others OS / Re: AmigaOS 4
« on: April 27, 2017, 11:19:29 PM »
@nemesis

As already stated here, A-Eon and A-cube are the companies who keep AmigaOS 4, at least, in new NG hardware. Trevor over at A-Eon could be very interested in something like this. It might actually turn a profit for him as all the different Amiga flavours would be interested in an Amiga laptop.

Yup, but mind that laptops specs kind of outperform the "top" model x5000 (I would call bugfixed and x1000 done proper and with more reasonable price). That is, in my eyes, reason against, but yes, as every Amigan since age of dawn, would love to see MOS/AROS/OS4 native on a laptop!

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There is also OWB for MorphOS built on webkit, I'm not sure how good it actually is compared to TenFourFox. but it could be an option.

There is also Timberwolf for AOS4 but I'm quite sure its quite outdated.

I can send you HTML5 test scores for different browsers on PPC (AmigaOne x1000 OS 4.1FE and Debian Wheezy). In my own experience

a) On Amiga side Odyssey is far better and modern then OWB and TW (TW has never been finished, and I love to read announcement that stands still that it will be updated to FF19 http://friedenhq.org/amiga/timberwolf/ )

b) On Linux side IceWeasel, Firefox and MIDORI do exist, beside KDE browser wich is Amiga style antiquitated by now. IceWeasel and FF are en par but FF tends to be a bit slow, so I find Midori very usable.

On UbuntuMATE which is updated, its possible to run Firefox 52

Yes, on none Javascript has JIT, but HTML5 works flawlessly and I find that most important.


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Is someone already working on getting Flash to work properly on PowerPC?

Sadly, there is no Flash in PPC Linux due to Adobe own policy (it does exist on x64
but Adobe doesnt want to make it open for cross platform compile).

Gladly, its been abandoned format, slow and CPU demanding and replaced by HTML5.

Adobes policies on their own plugin have been a matter of resistance in the past,
and I am glad You Tube has moved away.
See http://occupyflash.org/

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Gnu/Linux Distros / Re: Fedora
« on: April 27, 2017, 11:03:09 PM »
I think we should also test Fedora, I know its not fully Libre but it's a major distribution that still supports PowerPC (albeit only PPC64 and not in their standard "Workstation" variant).
Thoughts.

Using PPC Linux on AmigaOne x1000 and all I can say is, currently choice is down to:

a) PPC32 - Kernel 3.x days, Stable, Good apps from up to 2012 (older IceWeasel, Krita, Libre 3.5 etc.) Avail as Debian Wheezy 7.11, Ubuntu 12-14, and many many more (abeit) older version of Linux distros (Gentoo, OpenSUSE, Fedora ...). KDE/LXDE/GNOME3 all work, but dont have 3D on Radeon HD 7000 and above (Southern Island chips) due some MESA/X.org bugs. Radeons HD 2000-6870 work with 3D.

b) PPC64 Big Endian Road - Kernel 4.x days - Its basically down to Fedora 20 Server
and Ubuntu 14 MATE. Here we have newer MATE/Cinnamon, and really fresh FF, Libre 5.x etc.
Also we need 64-bit for 4GB+ RAM

Little Endian is supported by newest Debian and few more Linuxes due to IBM Power8 initiative, but that is "working the things easy way" - no Altivec and IBM Power 8 optimized.

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Others OS / Re: MorphOS
« on: June 01, 2015, 01:08:36 AM »
MorphOS ported to SAM460 is indeed good news and hope indeed that it will get ported to this notebook.

More important, it is announced (and even showed up in picture) for AmigaOne x5000 which
should have a similar CPU as netbook.

http://roschmyr.gmxhome.de/wtf.jpg

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news from the team / Re: New specifications and development status
« on: June 01, 2015, 01:04:26 AM »

Nice and expected choice (only remaining is expensive IBM Power series).
Current PPC high end, and as no notebook has ever used before :-)

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Others OS / Re: AROS
« on: April 03, 2015, 09:22:55 PM »
AROS is an Open Source porting/rewriting of AmigaOS 3.1 aimed at various platform. Main target is Intel architecture, nonetheless it exist AROS portings for ARM, Motorola 68000, and a PPC version too, even if it usually catches less interest than the others.

Infact there is no native PPC version of AROS. It should run hosted into PPC Linux Flavours or Mac PPC Darwin.

http://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/PPC_support

There is a native PPC port to SAM440 sponsored by Acube,

http://aros.sourceforge.net/nightly.php
http://msaros.blogspot.com/
http://aros-exec.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=314

... but again a lot of other x86 AROS apps would need to be PPC backported.

Type PPC here at Archives to see there seems to be some ported software
http://archives.aros-exec.org/index.php?function=search&tool=simple

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Others OS / Re: MorphOS
« on: April 03, 2015, 09:12:15 PM »
Hi, I have a Powerbook v.5.8 and I was buy licence key. Now I am finding some light version for dualboot. That is what I am here.
And sory for my english.

I am waiting for SAM460ex port to try it, looking forward to it. Fast and efficient OS, however major (CURRENT!) problem might be the
graphic card support - latest development seems to be Radeon X1300 driver and nVIDIA support is nowhere planned (same is with nVIDIA and AmigaOS 4, just a faster progress is made on RadeonHD cards).  We ll see state of MorphOS at time of laptop availiability, since its in continious development.

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None of the names is extremely appealing, but since its closed option I voted PowerTop :-)

Other then that FreePower64 (LibrePower64) would sounds more appealing, at least to me, while keeping the meaning

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Firmware , Bootloaders / Re: uboot + coreboot
« on: March 30, 2015, 11:40:48 PM »
Is it compatible in some ways with Open Firmware?

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware

As long as I recall MorphOS ATM works only with Open Firmware platforms...

I hope U-Boot and Open Firmware could be quickly flashed into Flash-RAM Firmware Chips on the mainboard, so user could choose which one of the two loading  into the machine.

AmigaOS works already with U-Boot, so it has no problems of compatibility at all...

MorphOS will work with UBoot once SAM460ex port is done.

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Suggestions / Re: about suggestions
« on: March 30, 2015, 11:35:06 PM »
Some tech specs are already defined as wrote in FAQ page http://www.powerpc-notebook.org/faq/
  • video card: MXM ( upgradable)
  • USB
  • SATA
  • RAM: DDR3, upgradable

MXM is quite nice idea, it gives a nVIDIA / Radeon choice to users and ends that war.
Hope Wi Fi is a standard too, and that monitor could be 17", such project deserves it :-)

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Others OS / Re: AmigaOS 4
« on: March 30, 2015, 11:33:34 PM »
@ Raffaele_Megabyte

I'm also sure that everybody could get benefit from this kind of cooperation.

By the way, happy new year everyone!

Thanks! Well with quite few motherboards, AmigaOS 4 is in a need for laptop.

Sadly, there is no definite answer who does what in OS 4 world in terms will they do the port (drivers too)
to expand the OS dessimention, they (Hyperion) expect someone to fund the port and they do it.

However, it can be negotiated (kickstarted if needed) once main hardware is done.

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